us. last night, he came prepared to play, president obama crushing mitt romney, starting right off the bat when he said hey dude, you don't have a five-point plan, you have a one point plan, which is all about regarding the rich, the rich people like you and screwing the middle class. great performance by president obama. let's talk about it, but first we'll take a little timeout to get the latest update. lisa ferguson standing by. good morning. >> good morning everyone. president obama does have a slight edge right now in who voters think won the debate. the new poll has him at 46% compared to mitt romney's 39. it was a much sharper and more aggressive president obama that we heard coming from him last night. we'll have a lot of fact-checking and explaining for you. i want to start off with libya. this is an area romney had a chance to come out on top and

should have come out on top but this turned out to be one of the president's strongest moments of the night. >> the suggestion that anybody on my team or the secretary of state, our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics when we lost four of our own is offensive. >> want to make sure we get that ford. it took the president 14 days to call it an act of terrorism. >> he did in fact, governor. >> crowley acknowledged that it took the obama administration days to say that the facts were premeditated but of course the

investigation is still ongoing and overall the president really did come out on top on the libya issue. ♪ >>brought to you by geico. 15 minutes could save 15% or more on car insurance. visit geico.com for a free rate quote.

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today the morning after that big second presidential debate and what a difference a couple of weeks makes. president obama obviously taking some cues from vice president joe biden. good to see you today. welcome to the full court press here on current tv, here on your local progressive station from our nation's capitol and our studio on capitol hill just down the street from the united states capitol building in the shadow of the capitol dome. i know you want to get right into the debate. we'll do that and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. for me, back from a quick overnight trip to san diego did a little debate with mike murphy in front of the american banker's association. thanks to john fugelsang for coming to fill in yesterday and

good to be back with you and with the whole team here, peter hello. >> hey hey! >> dan running the board this morning with phil. >> good morning. >> handling the phones and cyprian on the cameras and here we are. how about it. boy, san diego's a beautiful town. >> that's what i've heard. >> never been there? >> i've never been to santiago. >> san diego. that's a different place. it's just a great town. it's beautiful and the weather is perfect. i've lived almost everywhere in california but canned craig, love going there but i could never live there because i would just drop out. i'd get me a little sailboat and that would be the last you heard. >> don't you think about really nice places like that, you want to visit and leave because your

productivity would drop. >> there would be none at all. what's happening in baseball, bring me up to date. >> giants -- the nationals are still out. >> i hate to tell you. >> i was hoping there might be, you know, this series is so interesting. it would be better, let's bring the nationals back and give them another chance. >> doesn't work that way. >> the yankees are about to lose. >> big time. >> the tigers red hot. first great team and they're spunky fighting. that prior to. >> justin verlander 8 1/3 innings before he got taken out. >> couple of strikes. >> he's a maniac. bad news for the yucatan. they're down -- >> 3-0 tonight, the tigers win the yankees are done and the tigers are in for the first time

since 2006. >> after the nats lost, i jumped on the tiger bandwagon. >> i am for the yankees for sure. >> coming up, your calls for the debate 1-866-55-press. chris van ho will. len will join us by phone. he stood in for paul ryan in the debate prep with joe biden. can't wait to talk with him. peter fenn, democratic strategist will be here. we'll talk debate, but first. >> this is the full court press. >> we can consider the election over. it's all done and over with as president obama received a key endorsement that's going to win it all.

honey boo boo said she favors him. the reality star tells jimmy kimmel she'd vote for obama if she could because romney did not choose honey boo boo. general motors is kicking it up a notch to the electric car market making an electric hybrid version of the cadillac. the luxury vehicle being built next year in detroit, run on electricity. how about cylinder gas engine, when the battery runs out of power, it will be the

fourth electric car built at the plant. >> are people buying them? >> apparently g.m. thinks so. >> that's a good question. >> i haven't seen one. i'm not sure i would know one if i saw it. >> my neighbor just got a volt. >> an extension cord. >> an extension cord that runs out garage. i haven't seen one on the road. i don't know if it's a supply and demand thing or if they're not making them. >> a small maine town is abuzz police named 21 men who have paid to have sex with a 29-year-old zumba in instructor. alexis write has run her denies studio as a brothel for four years may have had more than 150 clients. that town's population under

10,000 people. >> i'm always suspicious of those little dance. >> zumba. >> or curves. >> they're working out. >> i'm not sure they'll be publishing the names of those people. but now, it's another issue. >> that's another issue. >> bill: that is another issue. the issues were flying last night. what a contrast between the first debate for barack obama and mitt romney and last night's debate. president obama came to play last night. we know he sort of checked out in the first debate. he didn't want to be there. his heart wasn't in it. his head wasn't in it. he looked like he was playing angry birds all night, looking down. last night he was in it, came out of the box swinging in response to the very, very first question. i loved that he went after mitt romney and said you don't have a five-point plan, dude, you've got a one point plan and your

one point plan is just to help the wealthy people and people like you and screw the middle class. the president was on it, and i thought in a very convincing way. again, your calls at 1-866-55-press. romney in response to every question, he rambled, he rattled on. he was throwing everything against the wall that he could remember from his debate prep hoping something would stick. i thought he was down right rude. they both got aggressive. the pot certainly wasn't going to let romney run all over him. he basically told the president to shut up and also telling candy crowley to shut up and running roughshod over here. he got away with it with jim lehrer. candy held her own. i thought she did a great job.

here are some of the highlights. romney stepped in it a few times. he tried to get away with stuff the way he did in the first debate. obama didn't let him. he said i'm the champion of coal and mr. president, you're going to shut down coal plants. president obama said isn't that interesting. >> governor, when you are governor of massachusetts you stood in front of a coal plant and pointed at it and said this plant kills and took great pride in shutting it down, and now suddenly you're a big champion of coal. >> bill: now suddenly, you're mr. coal flip-flop on coal, right? by the way don't forget not just our calls 1-866-55-press, but on twitter to, and facebook.

you can get in by phone facebook or twitter. >> we're watching. >> i mentioned the president calling out on the five-point plan. by the way it's a dumb five-point plan. the president said no, it's not. >> governor romney doesn't have a five-point plan. he has a one point plan and that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play bay different set of rules. >> bill: then the president called him out thank god he did this, called him out on mac as president clinton said in charlotte, it's aarithmetic and it doesn't ad up. he had $5 trillion in cuts, plus

$2 trillion in defense and wants to continue the bush tax cuts. now we're up to 8 trillion and romney says but trust me, that's not going to add to the deficit because i'm going to have all kind of offsets against deductions which he will not name. president obama said hey you wouldn't take that deal. >> if somebody came to you governor with a plan that said here i want to spend seven or $8 trillion and we're going to pay for it, but we can't tell you until maybe after the election how we're going to do it you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal, and neither should you, the american people, because the math doesn't add up. >> bill: i love that. >> sketchy deal! fuzzy math! >> that is a phrase that's going to hang in there sketchy deal.

i love that. then the very last question was sort of a lame question, i thought, so what is the worst thing that the other side has said about you in this campaign. i'm paraphrasing. mitt romney said the worst thing is they have misrepresented me. what was the bush phrase? i've been. >> misunderestimated. >> i've been misunderestimated that i only care about the wealthy, no, i care about 100% of americans. i said obama's got to mention the 47%. of course i said that two weeks before and he didn't. last night he came through. >> but i also believe that when he said behind closed doors that 47% of the country considered themselves victims who refuse

personal responsibility? think about who he was talking about! folks on social security who have worked all their lives veterans who sacrifice for this country, soldiers, who are overseas, fighting for us right now, people who are working hard every day, paying payroll tax gas taxes but don't make enough income, and i want to fight for them. >> bill: and mitt romney never responded that never got a chance to respond that was the last word, a very strong close by the president so i thought obama did extremely well last night. he was really on his game last night, and i thought romney was off his game. he did contradict himself several times mentioning the coal he accused the president of not calling the attack in libya a terrorist attack, which the president candy crowly even had to point out to mitt romney that he was wrong. he said that assault weapons are still -- are illegal in this

country. he was wrong. assault weapons ban expired in 2004. and then probably the biggest gaffe of romney, don't you think, peter when he talked about how much i care about women and proved it because when i was governor of massachusetts and tried to fill my cabinet i notice the nominees were men and he said well, what about women and they said we couldn't find any qualified women and he said go out and find some. >> bring me some girls! bring me the ladies! >> bill: here he said here's what they came up with. >> we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds to be qualified as numbers of our cabinets. i went to women said grooms and said can you help us find folks and they brought us whole binders full of women. >> bill: binders full of women. that's a phrase that's going to stick.

>> i don't mean to brag, but in college, i had binders full of women. that was a long time ago but binders of women. >> bill: binders full of women. there it is, when you think of that you think of mitt romney. did president obama deliver the goods last night? something he maybe give the knockout punch to mitt romney? 1-866-55-press, on twitter facebook. we'll be right back. dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me.

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>> announcer: your chance to debate the debate. this is the full court press live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: 25 minutes after the hour here at the full court press. conservatives on last night's debate said the president will probably be declared the winner on most of the debate cards. david brooks, if we go by winners and losers, i guess i'd have to say obama won the debate and charles crodhammerp i think if you're scoring on points, obama wins on points. >> that's the only way you can win on points. >> bill: what is on twitter? >> he showed his true self last night, pissy and entitled, talking about mitt romney. >> bill: it was pissy by the way, he was whiney and petulant.

he was rude, down right rude at times, you know, like a guy who feels like a lot of rich people, right. they treat their servants that way and waiters that way and i thought romney was treating the people on the panel the citizens who were there last night and candy crowley. >> stated it's not the government's jobs to create jobs after saying the president hadn't created jobs. >> bill: that's a good point, that contribution. larry up in new britain connecticut, hi, larry. >> caller: good morning guys. >> bill: what do you think. >> caller: i think we got a little more spring in our step today, don't we? >> bill: you got it, a little more bounce in our step. >> caller: obviously it was a complete reversal over the first debate.

obama looked like the trilogy the lord of the rings. he looked like he was under the spell. >> bill: in the first one. >> caller: the second one. actually, my favorite moment was can you say that a little louder, candy. >> bill: yeah, when candy corrected mitt romney and said no the president did call it an act are terror. can you say that a little louder that was good. sean in oakland california. >> caller: good morning, bill, how are you? >> bill: i'm good. >> caller: good, yeah, i just wanted to comment on the day last night. a couple of weeks ago i was demoralized, depressed and angry with my guy. i can truly say he brought me back just like he brought this country back, he brought me back. >> bill: yeah, i think that was an overall reaction of people last night is that -- and they needed it. joe biden did a great deal

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facebook. we're joined in studio by the deputy editor of "think progress." nice to see you this morning. thanks for coming in. i know you guys were weighing every word last night. >> everything. >> i want to get your take on that. peter, what's the latest on twitter? >> we were asking what was your favorite moment of the debate. we have two overwhelming winners, check the transcript on libya, and when candy crowly says you did say act of terror. can you say that louder, candy. and of course, binders full of women. >> bill: binders full of women has got to go down and also, sketchy deal. >> that was the top google search. >> bill: i remember after the first presidential debate, you

said that famously put out that mitt romney had told 27 myths in 38 minutes after the joe biden-paul ryan debate, that paul ryan had put out 38 myths in 40 minutes. what's the count no. >> it's going to be a lot more, i'm going through it now but there were when thatters, certainly the libya moment where he was called out. this is what republicans have been saying for a week now that obama never used the word terrorism until weeks and weeks and weeks after the event. first of all, i don't know why zero makers have to immediately label something terrorism right away. i don't know why that's the problem or before we knew what was happening, before the facts on the ground, why that's the case but candy crowley called romney out and said that in the rose garden, september 12, the day after the attack, obama used the word terrorism.

he then used it later september 17 on the stump, called it terrorism there. so that certainly was a big moment. >> bill: here ford for the record is president obama. >> no act of terror will dim the light that we proudly shine on the rest of the world and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the united states state of america. >> bill: no act are terror. there are the words right there. romney looked like a deer in the headlights. what? did you? you said, you did say that? >> this is not being well briefed. >> he did say terror, but generally, not specifically. >> bill: they lost that round. >> it's over. if you look at what romney was saying, he came out in front of the president the night of september 11 and that statement

he didn't use terrorism. in the press conference the morning of september 12, he did not use terrorism. so if the barometer is you have to immediately say terrorism romney failed by his own standard. >> what he did do was politicize this thing from day one. romney was out there blaming obama for basically siding with a terrorist. >> you know as well as anyone, republicans have this history of politicizing terror to suit marry political means. you say it in 2011 for iraq, you saw it in 2004, what they did to kerry. it's a familiar playbook. >> bill: ok. >> the contraception moment,

saying he now supports contraception for all women. when there was a vote in the senate on the so-called blunt amendment that said employers. >> bill: employers. >> if it's against their religious beliefs, they can deny contraception coverage to women. romney was asked about it back in march. he said i support it. blunt is his liaison to the senate. he supported that measure. this is a completely new position. >> bill: what i wonder about romney, does he think he can tell these lies and get away with it? some of them are pretty blatant like with the coal thing too the coal plant accusing president obama of being against coal and the president pointed out when he was governor of massachusetts, he shut down a coal plant and said this will kill you. >> stood in front of a coal plant at a press conference. >> we have the great work of

people at think progress, but last night clearly president obama was ready to call out lies which is something he didn't do in the first debate at all. there were a couple of times he looked him in the eye and said that is not true, right to his face. >> bill: in my notes, you know, the president said not a thing you just said is true, right. sort of like joe biden had done against paul ryan. >> but certainly he had a much more measured tone. first debate, he wasn't aggressive and joe biden who was aggressive. president obama was somewhere in the middle. >> bill: not true, governor, very little of what you said is true. boom. >> he definitely picked up some tips from biden like the big smile when romney was clearly telling a lie. you knew what obama was trying to say by just not saying anything at all just that big smile. when he's smiling he's lying. >> bill: come to think of it,

there wasn't as much, at least i didn't see as much split screen last night. it was kind of hard to do the way the stage was set up, you know, when they were sitting on their chair back at their little table or standing around, it was hard to get them on the split screen. i think it was better for viewing. >> i got eye fatigue watching the side by side. this was a welcome change. >> bill: i also thought the president was very effective in terms of let's go back to the myths of romney. one of them is that his plan, tax plan adds up, right? of course it adds up. boom. didn't give any evidence at all. refused to say remember the woman asked the question so what would happen with child care, the children's tax deduction right, the mortgage interest deduction, charitable deductions and the education deduction.

what will happen with those. >> nobody knows because romney hasn't said. >> bill: and he didn't say last night. >> he didn't say last night. his claim has always been look, middle class families will get a tax decrease and high end earners will pay the same because when they start closing the deductions, i'll start with the deductions that benefit the richest americans. tax experts say simply there are not enough rich people deductions to make this work. he's going to have to cut into middle income americans and they are going to see a tax increase. romney is saying two plus two equals five. he says that at every debate. >> bill: plus trust me. >> i'll give you the details after i'm elected. >> of course it will add up. that was a smarmy moment. >> let's say hello to missy good morning.

>> caller: good morning. >> bill: hi, what did you think? >> caller: i thought the debate last night was fantastic. i think that it's, i mean the president stepped up. i wish he would have talked about the obstruction in congress and how that behinderred him from creating more jobs. >> bill: that's an excellent point. i made that same point in my notes. what occurred to me when he was talking about immigration and why you haven't produced an immigration bill. there's a good reason why. he alluded to it at one point. he couldn't, republicans in congress would not allow that to even come up for a vote and republicans in congress who supported comprehensive immigration reform when bush was in the white house are against it with obama in the white house. he should have nailed the republicans in congress on that issue, i agree. >> caller: thank you very much. >> bill: she was watching

closely. it is true, not to take him off the hook, but climate change, immigration reform there's a good reason why those things have not happened. >> but, you know, i think. >> bill: jobs, good reason why we don't have people back to work. >> there's pressure on him to take responsibility, not to say here's what i was able to do, here's how i did it, here's what i have accomplished. i think in that setting he felt like if he shifted the blame to congress it would have made him look a little weak. >> bill: well, i thought that the president's best moment, and we can get back to that when we come back is the one man african-american who basically said i voted for you the last time, now what did you do for me. >> and he had a long list. >> bill: and president obama went here's what i've done, boom boom, boom, very effectively. your calls at 1-866-55-press, we'll also take your comments on twitter and facebook.

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out. go to incomeathome.com. so we are talking about things mitt romney tried to get away with last night. we mentioned the coal plant the arithmetic on the tax plan. >> barbara says if obama laid back and followed the rules, he would have looked weak. way to go, obama. florida says on her impression of romney, "romney is the boss i always hated." >> a really good, effective way to drive home the way he looked last night. >> bill: somebody said he looks like the boss that fired you.

>> that drives home the point who he is. >> bill: according to the clock ok according to the clock president obama spoke for 19:50 romney 17:17. >> i did see romney had more words. he got to say more in less time. so, you know. >> he's very efficient. >> depends on which side you want to foul on. you could complain about this either way. >> bill: he might have said more, but ended up saying less. a lot of it, i thought several answers, he didn't know, i think where he was going and he just -- it was like everything he remembered from debate prep, he threw against the wall. some things didn't even connect. >> he just started talking about two parent families and marriages, and keeping families strong and it was so bizarre

just out of nowhere. i don't know how that connected. assault rifles i think was the question. >> bill: of course he said assault rifles, it's still illegal to have them or sell them in this country when in fact it's not. elle is joining us. good morning. >> caller: good morning. >> the debate, the truth oh, my gosh the truth prevails and i'm excited. >> bill: the truth did prevail last night. >> caller: yes. [ laughter ] >> bill: as he said in the last debate, after the first debate, you know, rom know may tell a lie, but unless you in debate, unless you rebut it, it stands. >> you had both crowly with libya and shatter the lice. romney has been trying to run

this post truth campaign and this is the first time he's been confronted with the consequences which can be quite embarrassing. >> bill: somebody said they were fact checking this in realtime last night. out in the state of iowa, hi, lori, good morning. >> caller: good morning, how are you? >> bill: good, thank you. what did you think last night? >> caller: i watched the debate with my 10-year-old son and there was a point in the debate when romney first basically tried to tell our president to sit down and shut up. >> bill: yes. >> caller: and that just really, really turned me off. i immediately thought, you know, is this the guy whose finger i want on the button when it comes down to it? he is so out of control. it was shortly after that, well i had to go to bed because obviously i'm up early but i

did record it, plan to watch the rest of it. my mind was made up right there at that very moment. also, and i'm not sure, because i didn't watch the whole thing you know, we could be looking at, you know, the next administration putting in two supreme court justice. >> bill: oh, yeah. >> caller: what i'm looking at is the fundamental my fundamental beliefs do i really want a president who's going to takes away a woman's right to choose. >> bill: you know what, romney has already said he wants to appoint justice that will vote to overturn roe v. wade. he said that is one of this is goals. just a quick comment. i did think that romney crossed the line in terms of civility last night a few times. people want an aggressive

debate but want civility. >> he said wait your turn. >> bill: you'll get your chance. i'm still talking. peter, back to the boss that you hated, reminds you of that. >> doesn't matter if you have a point, i'm talking. >> bill: look forward now to your whole count on think progress. thinkprogress.org. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the bill press show. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] or you could just hand them your keys. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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on any topic at any time, this is the bill press show, live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: eliot spitzer host of "viewpoint" joins us at the top of the next hour. get his take on the debate. >> email i think we ought to call it atlas flubbed. ricky reynolds suggests mitt got his clock cleaned. did you notice the way he throws numbers out when he is pressed? yeah he throws anything out hoping something will stick. >> i think president obama hit the ball out of the park. i wish he would have stated that he put two women on the supreme court. b. says why didn't president obama talk about the republican controlled house refusing to pass anything he asked for. >> bill: i think he should have

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody, what do you say, it is wednesday october 17. thanks for joining us on the progressive show called the full court press the only progressive morning show anywhere on cable television. good to have you with us today after last night's big debate. what a difference between last night and the first debate.

did you know that it's illegal to buy or sell an assault weapon in this country anymore? well, it's not illegal but mitt romney got it wrong last night. did you know that president obama waited 14 days before he called the attack on our embassy in benghazi an act or terror? no, that's not correct either, but that's what mitt romney said last night. he got it wrong. those are just two of the many, many lies mitt romney tried to get away with last night. president obama did not let him get away with any one of them. neither did candy crowley who did a great job. here she is, lisa ferguson standing by. hi, good morning. >> hey bill, good morning everyone. as also, after the debates there are some new memes floating around. when the candidates were asked how they would level the playing

field for women in the workplace. >> we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to be members of our cabinets. i went to women's groups and said can you help us find them. they brought us binders full of women. >> the web side bindersfullofwomen.com. this one leads to romney's record on women including seniors, working women and victims of violence. the site points out that romney initially refused to say whether he would have signed the fair pay act. he ended funding for a cervical and breast cancer program and he tried vetoing a bill requiring hospitals to give rape victims emergency contraception. the boston globe is fact checking romney's claims about

hiring women. turns out he did have a decent record of this at governor. it was a different story at bain capital. he had no women partners as c.e.o. during the 1980's and 1990's. stephanie miller rounds out current's morning news block. >>you're welcome current tv audience for the visual candy. >>sharp tongue, quick whit and above all, politically direct. >>you just think there is no low they won't go to. oh, no. if al gore's watching today...

[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: broadcasting across the nation on your radio and on current tv, this is the bill press show. >> bill: if we have big smiles on our face this morning it's because we have a binders and binders of women. binders full of women. just like mitt romney. good morning everybody what do you say? it is wednesday october 17, the morning after the second presidential debate and what a

contrast between the second and the first presidential debate. no doubt about who was the winner last night, president obama came to play, came out swinging from the very, very beginning. obviously joe biden did a good job coaching the president for this debate and getting him ready. we got a lot to talk about this morning. that's why it's so good to see you. your first crack at talking about the debate here on the full court press today. we'll take your calls at 1-866-55-press, also invite you to join us on twitter @bpshow and facebook. coming to you this wednesday morning with team press here, peter ogburn and dan henning dan has got the phones today and cyprian, our videographer.

thanks to john fugelsang filling in yesterday. arrived at the airport at 20 to nine got home just as the first question was being asked. >> you are 20 minutes from the airport. that's cutting it close, buddy. >> u.s. air got a little close last night. speech in the morning flying across the country and staying up for the debate, but it was worth it. it was a good show last night don't you think? >> yeah, absolutely. >> bill: off the debate. we always have fun in the morning looking at the monitors what's happening on fox and friends and how you've got like a parallel universe. it's a totally different world but they're terror time line is the headline right now. they're still on this thing that the president didn't say terror, didn't call it an act of terror the day after. by the way candy crowley killed

that argument when she proved how wrong mitt romney was on that point. bill maher had some right on things to say about fox and friends, what a joke it is. here he is. >> you can't call your show fox and friends if you don't have any friends. [ laughter ] >> and no, the people at the group home are not your friends. [ laughter ] >> also, steve ducy can't always have that computer open, if he never uses it to look up any facts. does he even know it's a laptop or does he think it's the weakest george foreman grill? show me there's not a grilled cheese in there. [ laughter ] new mill make your on fox and friends. at the top of the hour,

congressman from maryland, the stand in for the debate prep. we'll talk about the back and forth last night on libya. but first. >> headlines making news, the detroit tigers are one win away from heading to the world series in game three of the american league championship series. the tigers beat the yankees 2-1. jason verlander pitched 8 1/3 shut out innings. the tigers were last in the world series in 2006. game three this afternoon, san francisco and st. louis are tied at one game apiece. go giants. >> san francisco in the word series sounds good to me. >> bill: i hate to dump on the

cardinals, but they beat our nats. >> i hate the cardinals worse than the yankees and that's saying something. >> even being a supreme court justice won't exempt you from getting a parking ticket. justice scalia despite having a special police placard got a ticket for $31 for parking in a loading zone. interesting to note, the parking authority in philadelphia have long been known as a republican-run institution. >> i got to tell you i hate to be the judge if anthony scalia comes in to protest that. >> sprinted is offering a unique service to its mobile phone customers but it's backfiring quickly. customers can order a personal vanity phone number that begins with the characters star star. if you wanted your own personal phone number, star star bilked

be yours. not all phone companies can recognize numbers that start with starkeys, so some friends will never be able to call you. sprint didn't realize the kinks in the system until they rolled it out and popular names will go fast, so it will get old quickly. >> bill: just what i need, a vanity phone number. >> really! >> bill: mitt romney will have one. >> bill: the morning after the debate, what a contrast between the first debate and the second presidential debate. covering it for current tv part of the great team and post debate covering, eliot spitzer host of "viewpoint" on current tv every night at 8:00 p.m. joining us this morning. hey, eliot, good morning. >> good morning how are you doing. >> bill: we're not going to rub it in that the yankees are behind. >> maybe you and i should go out

for drinks and commiserate. the yankees would have been a better team, but that's all right. >> bill: president obama came out of the box swinging, what a contrast. >> his inner id came out last night. he was an amazing wwf type of competition, coming out slugging swinging, each scored some points. it was the sort of contrast intellectually factually that served democracy well. it was a superb debate? when you think mitt romney in effect told the president to shut up, i'm still talking, he may have crossed the line. >> i think there were demeanor moments for both where they weren't quite as respectful of the other as their teams would have wanted them to be. i don't think romney crossed the line a whole lot more than the president. i think these were two guys

emotionally engaged. the highlight of the night was one the republicans are going to go crazy about when candy crowley said you are wrong about what the president said in the rose garden. that deflated what should have been a moment when romney could have hit it out of the park, but instead, he took it a step too far, candy came in as the voice of neutrality and took the victory away from romney. i think from that on, the president had emotional control of the floor. >> bill: the criticism has been because of what candy jumping in there. was she doing her job? >> i got to tell you, i think that's a close call. when you look at the transcript of what the president said in the rose garden that next day, i don't have it right in front of me but what he said was an act are terror will not and boom boom boom. it wasn't so clear that he was

referring to what happened in benghazi as an act of terror. the president wants to say i was calling it an act of terror then. the romney camp will say no, he didn't say that. she is weighing in what was an arguable point. maybe it's an argument she should have left for them. >> >> bill: the president was talking about libya the day before. this was september 12, we all knew why he was there. whatever the republicans tries to about that. >> the funny thing is debate strategy if romney had stuck he had a better argument, five days later the u.s. ambassador was still saying. if he had done that, he would have been ok. thank goodness he didn't. that was an emotional pivot point. >> bill: i'm sure you had your favorite moment. my favorite, there were a couple of times i thought the president

really scored, and my favorite is when he used this phrase about mitt's arithmetic. >> if somebody came to you governor with a plan that said here, i want to spend seven or $8 trillion and we're going to pay for it, but we can't tell you until maybe after the election how we're going to do it, you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal, and neither should you the american people, because the math doesn't add up. >> bill: sketchy deal. >> yeah, i like i thought that was a great moment. i wish actually the president i loved the metaphor and wish the president had done it more often saying you as a businessman would not take the deal you're offering to the american public because the math is wrong and you're not giving us the financials. the metaphor that you wouldn't buy this deal when you were at bain capital. i think it's a riff that worked.

the president won by showing up and showing us who he really is. whether that's sufficient to carry the day we're not going to know for a bit of time. >> bill: it was a great way of taking that boast i'm a businessman, i'm a businessman and turning it around, you know and using it. well, as a businessman, you wouldn't take a deal like that with that right? sketchy deal. >> i think that's exactly right. i think the president did a great job deconstructing romney's tax proposal. there's still a lot of confusion out there a lot of people who think the rates can be cut 20% and nobody's going to pay more taxes and the arithmetic doesn't work. this is a mirage. it just doesn't reality. >> bill: was there a favorite exchange of yours between the two of them? >> you know, i think -- i think maybe it was about benghazi,

because i think mitt just got caught. he just got caught, and he went too far and there's nothing, i can tell you as an advocate, there is nothing you think is a great moment and taking it too far and it collapsed. romney went too far and it collapsed on him and the pot gained his footing. >> bill: he did look like a deer caught in headlights. that's the one moment most people are talking about this morning. >> the other one jump back just for a second, i apologize. >> bill: sure. >> when the question to mitt romney was how are you different from george w. bush. >> bill: yes! >> that was brilliant the president's response is that he is different but he's gone hard right on the social issues. the social issues weren't a big part of the debate but i thought the president captured that and gave is a nice coherent seal of my goodness, this guy has lunched so far to the right he makes george w. bush look like a moderate. >> bill: unexpected but

brilliant on obama's part. i also was surprised to romney went out of his way to criticize george w. bush. i'm sure he pissed some people off doing that. this guy racked up too many deficits. >> this is the new mitt the moderate. who knows where he ends up. we shouldn't be blind to what continues to be the soft underbelly of the president's campaign, which is that when all is said and done, you didn't leave last night with a real tangible sense of what the second term agenda is going to be. >> bill: by the way i made that criticism yesterday in a speech about those candidates. i don't think we've heard it from either one with three weeks to go. one other final moment i felt was very good and happened early in the debate, when the president said hey governor, you don't have a five-point plan, you've got a one point plan. that was obviously a rehearsed line, but i thought a clever

moment. your one point plan is just help the rich basically. >> exactly. but you know, it's going to take a bit of time. the president bounced back. had the first debate not occurred i think we would sitting with the president comfortably ahead in the swing states. the question is does last night bring him back to where he was before the first debate or keep the needle where it is, which is dangerous territory in virginia, ohio, north carolina and we're not going to know that for a bit of time yet. >> particularly with the independents. it certainly reenergized the base last night. joe biden got it started but obama had to do it last night and he delivered the goods. you guys delivered the goods last night on current tv. >> we had fun. >> bill: good job again. thanks for keeping it going this morning. i don't know how you do it. >> i always get up early to hear you bill, you know that new thank you and we'll see you tonight at 8:00 on "viewpoint"

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: this is the bill press show. >> bill: 25 minutes after the hour, full court press here on october 17, wednesday. take a look at last night's debate. so mark halprin from nbc said

last night that there is nobody, nobody could say that mitt romney won the debate. he said that after the debate. there was nobody could say that mitt romney won that debate. mark halprin was wrong. here he is this morning on good morning america paul ryan. >> the reason i think mitt romney won this debate is america again. >> bill: oh, shut up, i don't want to hear it. get out of here. [ laughter ] >> bill: come on, geeze, you know my little puppy here on the leash peter, right. >> it's pathetic. you can say he put on a good showing. >> bill: you can say he didn't step on his boom too bad. >> you can say that. it's not true. >> bill: he did not win the debate. >> we have someone who wrote in saying if they gave a name to last night's debate, they would call it atlas flub.

we asked for other ideas. paul says atlas scrub could be another one. michael peterson says how obama got his groove back. @bark whey says mittens meltdown. >> bash, return of the jedi, because obama was definitely back in form. >> bill: yeah, he was. the force. >> the force was strong with him last night. >> bill: gary calling from the good state of mississippi what do you think? >> caller: i think last night was a blast. the president really did bring it the way he was supposed to the first time. >> bill: uh-huh. >> caller: and what stood out to me was the president mentioning the china investments. >> bill: oh, yeah, yeah.

>> caller: romney trying to say you got money in china too. [ laughter ] >> bill: have you checked your pension lately. >> caller: right. but the icing on the cake was andy crowley telling romney to take a seat. >> bill: yeah, absolutely. the other thing about china the president pointed out mitt romney has investments in plants right now today in china that are taking away american jobs. he turned to romney and said you're the last person in the world that's going to get tough on china, governor romney, and there was just several very, very effective putdowns. i think the difference to me, one of the big differences peter, was that when the president put down romney, he did it, he was tough, he was firm but he was also. >> he wasn't rude. >> bill: he wasn't rude, exactly. when romney did it, it was like do you know how rich i am?

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traffic. twitter @bpshow and facebook. >> we've got comments on the highlight of the debate and also what was mitt romney's low point of the night, but larry writes in on twitter the low point for mitt romney was when he gave president obama the opening to talk about the 47%. mitt romney referenced the 100%. he sort of walked right into that trap. >> bill: and president obama came through with the 47% of the night. that was the end of the night. >> dropped the mic walked off stage, i'm out. >> bill: i'm out exactly. >> joining us is joe cirincione. good to see you. >> good to see you too. >> bill: today's show is brought to you by, i got to tell you

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what's going on here? >> first of all what's going on is an investigation of what happened. this is the first thing people need to know about this. there was lapses. we weren't prepared for this. there wasn't obviously enough security. we lost an ambassador and four brave americans in a planned terrorist attack. they have appointed a special board headed up by ambassador tom pickering who served both republicans and departments and the former chairman of the joint chiefs mike mullin. there is an investigation. the republicans have turned this tragedy, this terrorist attack on 9/11 this year into an opportunity to attack the president, feed right into the obama attack machine portray him as weak, hiding something and they've politicized what should be a momentum of unity for the country. >> bill: mitt romney started while the attack was still

underway, when we did not know where chris stevens was ambassador chris stevens and certainly did not know he'd been killed and romney was already accusing the president of making a partisan political attack against the president for being responsible for this attack. president obama i thought one of the strongest moments last night, two first he took full responsibility. >> yes. >> bill: this idea that he's trying to throw hillary under the bus, he said i'm the commander-in-chief, the buck stops here. >> right. >> bill: then he turned to mitt and said the idea that you accused me, here. >> the suggestion that anybody on my team, whether the secretary of state our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we've lost four of our own governor is offensive. that's not what we do. >> it is offensive it's deeply offensive. he called it exactly like it is.

just think back to the 9/11 attack of 2001. also an intelligence failure also where the president ignored signs, but we weren't prepared for that. what was his response to the democratic party the? you saw tom dashle hug the president on the floor of the house. there were no attacks on who was to blame or what did you know and when did you know it. they came together. here you had the republican party led by the new york conservatives, for whom the middle east is a driving issue using it to attack the president. four americans are dead and they're using it as a political football. it's disgraceful. >> bill: it is, it's disgusting, disgraceful. i hope the american people see it that way. then romney might have been able to score on this point, because, you know, it sounds like oh, boy they weren't prepared and everything, but

then he went too far and accused the president of not calling it an act of terror for some 14 days, just for the record, here is president obama in the rose garden on september 12 the day after this libyan attack. >> no acts of terror will dim the lights of the values that we proudly shine on the rest of the world and no act of violence will shake the resolve of the united states of america. >> bill: no act of terror, so the president says mitt, you're wrong. i said it the next day in the rose garden. >> check the transcript. >> bill: back and forth and romney is deer in headlights, what, you said it then, is that what really happened, then candy crowley steps up. >> i want to make sure we get that ford. it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in benghazi an act of terror. >> get the transcript. >> he did in fact, sir so let

me. >> bill: can you say that a little louder, candy? >> he did call it an act are terror. >> bill: good for candy crowley. >> this is a key moment of the debate. you felt it turn right then and there. commentators have said it took him a good 10 minutes to find his footing again. he is talking about something he really doesn't understand. romney doesn't understand foreign policy or national security issues. he knows what he's been taught. >> bill: what do you mean he doesn't understand foreign policy. we remember his trip to england. >> his forays into this area have been embarrassing for the country and the governor personally. >> bill: paul ryan with all his experience. >> again a team very, very light on the issue. you're going to see the

republicans continue to press this attack. they're not giving up. the chairman, the gop chairman in the house have written the president of the united states demanding a huge amount of documentation on this, this talk of coming back next week for special classified briefings. they are using this as a political attack point. president obama said something very important yesterday and this is what his national security record shows. these killers of the ambassador are not going to go unpunished. this is the man who said he was going to get bin laden he got bin laden. we are going to get these killers, they are apparently already in our cross hairs. it is coming. >> there was a look on obama's face when he was talking about that and the way that he looked at romney, he meant what he was saying, and i don't know that i've ever seen him get that serious and that straight forward and it was a you don't know what you're doing here, buddy. you don't know what you're

getting into here buddy. >> obama's got one of the most dangerous men in washington, john denning his counter terrorism director. you do not mess around with these two guys. >> bill: you ask osama bin laden and muammar gaddafi. >> this is about national security. you come after us, we're coming after you. >> bill: he said that. he's proven it. there's no doubt about it. so. >> they're on the hunt. >> bill: yeah, they are. but do you think last night that by overstepping, that mitt romney might have weakened their case. >> he weakened their case in two ways. he looked feckless on this issue. he looked like he didn't know what he was talking about. >> bill: i love that word. a good friend of mine in california always uses that word feckless. >> he deflated the republican

attack. you see the washington post today comparing this to bush and w.m.d. in iraq. a president lie to say trick us into war and you're equating this with confusion for a few days of whether there was a mob or a terrorist group that killed our ambassador? i don't see the equivalency here. >> bill: it looked initially it looked like it was a protest sparked by the

our intelligence told the white house quoting the people on the scene we are here because of that video. >> that's right. the media was saying this. i did went on for days afterwards. all the information we were getting was that this was a protest. then it started to filter out wait a minute, protestors don't come with r.b.g.7's. this was a planned assault. we now know that no amount of security would have stopped it. >> bill: join us here, joe cirincione in studio with us. the second presidential debate, and president obama came out swinging last night from the very beginning. we'll be right back to take your calls. >> announcer: chatting with you live at current.com/bill press.

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> announcer: your chance to debate the debate. this is the full court press live on your radio and current tv. new 12 minutes before the top of the hour here on this wednesday october 17. joe cirincione in studio with us, the whole team here, talking about last night's debate. cnbc instant poll of their viewers right after the debate showed president obama winning 56-39. lake research also did an instant survey poll, telephone poll after the debate, obama winning 53-38.

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join me today and visit try ancestry.com. you'll have two full weeks to see what you can uncover. again, visit try ancestry.com. >> bill: lets talk a rosamon from california. >> caller: hello bill. >> bill: good morning. >> caller: i wanted to say i'm very proud of my president, our

president, but i do have a question and maybe you can help me. >> bill: uh-huh. >> caller: my understanding and one of the reasons i think it's so hideous to make the benghazi tragedy political is my understanding that the protection of embassies and consulates are in the hands of the country that you're in, and that nine libyans gave their lives in trying to defend our consulate. i think that it's just tragic, the way this is being bounced around like some kind of a ball or something. >> bill: all right. appreciate hearing from you. joe, what about security, the u.s. is still responsible correct. >> there are two levels. the caller is right most of the security is usually the host nation and that just makes sense. >> bill: of course, but you can't always count on them. >> you can't so the state democratic has a security division within it that's

responsible for both physical protections, so that's gates and barriers and personnel that is provided to the ambassador for example had two security personnel with him at the time, these are the two former seals killed in the assault. >> bill: the state department budget to provide more agents, more law enforcement, more security officers and to upgrade security at the embassies in terms of physical like you said gates and barriers, that budget was slashed by republicans in the house of representatives so it's sort of like the kid who kills his parents and then whines about being an orphan. >> the republicans attacked the budget and slashed it, part of that was $300 million for embassy security. >> bill: romney said this libyan thing is emblematic of the fact

that president obama's foreign policy is responsible. he bounced from israel to syria and iran, proving that everything was falling apart. >> it's exactly the opposite. i know they want to portray it that way. you've seen the commentators almost gristle outside the embassy in cairo actually celebrating those who were attacking america at the time. that's why this whole thing disgusts me the way they are using this. it's exactly the opposite. it shows the president's policy that in fact opened up channels of communication and influence with the new leaders of the region, as these riots broke out, the president got on the phone and urged them to quell these protests, which they did. the protests, there are no more protests outside u.s. embassies.

libya in fact, recent poll shows libya, american popularity is soaring throughout the region. >> bill: thanks so much for coming in this morning. we just scratched the surface. you'll have to lot more to say about that on your website. >> thanks, joe. >> bill: absolutely. we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪

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press show." >> bill: three minutes before the top of the hour. peter fenn will be here and congressman chris van hollen will join us, as well. president obama is headed to iowa and ohio. oh yeah, what a coincidence yes. first event of the day will be 10 minutes to 11. actually, by the time he gets there, 11:45 at cornell college in mount vernon, iowa. then he leaves iowa and heads off to ohio in athens, ohio, a big campaign event this evening at ohio university in athens, and then the president back at the white house arriving back at 9:00 tonight. so congressman chris van hollen and peter fenn and we continue to take your calls about

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[ ♪ theme ♪ ] >> bill: good morning everybody. what do you say? happy wednesday october 17. it's the morning after that second presidential debate, what a night. i know you're going to want to talk about it here on the full court press on current tv. thank you for joining us this morning. i'm bill press. good to have you with us and ready to take your calls at 1-866-55-press. he may have sat out the first debate, but president obama came ready to play last night

crushing mitt romney right off the battling him hey governor, you don't have a five-point plan no, you got to one point plan and it's all about regarding the wealthiest of americans and screwing the middle class. what a great job last night. we'll talk all about it again take your calls but first with he get the latest, today's current news update. here she is standing by, lisa ferguson standing by. >> good morning everyone. more than a few lies were tossed around last night and we are fact checking those for you this morning. let's start with what romney had to say. >> the proof whether a strategy is working or not is the price you're paying at the pump. if you are paying less than you paid a year or two ago the strategy is working but you're paying more. >> this is something republicans love to do, blame the president when gas prices are high, but

give him no credit when the prices are down. the fact is oil is an internationally traded commodity, meaning international markets, not the president determine the price of gasoline. gas prices were low when president obama took office because the world was in the middle of a financial collapse and the fee hand and price of gasoline were down. now tries are high because demands are at a new high and the president's policies good or bad have very little to do with that. romney blamed the president for not investing in our own ail saying it's down 14%. it is down this year. that is not indicative of the overall trend. we are in fact drilling more under president obama than we were under the bush administration. during the president's first three years in office, national production was up 12%. obama had it right when he said that during his administration, enough oil and gas pipelines

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your local progressive talk radio station in this great land of ours and on current tv. good to have you with us. we are doing a debate, debate, debate debate, that's the one big topic of the day today. president obama came out swinging, crushed mitt romney and called mitt romney out on every one of his lies. the president did everything last night we were waiting for him to do the first debate, but he's back, and so are we. we're going to talk about it and take your calls at 1-866-55-press. join the team here, all in place, expanded team this morning, peter ogburn. >> hey. >> dan henning running the board. bill taking the phones and cyprian manning the cameras. hello, team. >> we're all happy and excited

but up late last night take it easy on us. >> bill: you? i flew back from san diego yesterday and thanks to john fugelsang for filling in yesterday, and got it just in time, hopped in a cab from the national airport home as the first question was being asked. perfect timing. >> you couldn't have timed that better to get from san diego here to get to the debate. >> bill: they did say they would hold it up if i didn't make it home quite in time. they said they could delay things for five minutes or so. yeah right. ok. [ laughter ] >> bill: we got a big lineup today, peter fenn is going to be along to help us sort through the debate, democratic strategist and congressman chris van hollen from maryland, the ranking democratic on the house budget committee and the man who played paul ryan in the debate prep for joe biden will be joining us, as well. peter's got his eye on twitter

and facebook. twitter @bpshow. >> and facebook.com/billpressshow. >> we asked what are the low points for mitt romney, which i think we're getting very interesting responses on. annie fanny 22 on twitter, one of the low points was when mitt started running over the moderator. it happened too many times. >> bill: he was down right rude. >> he really was. >> bill: he was down right offensive and rude, and crossed the line, i thought several times. back to the -- we'll play the binders one a little bit later. >> yeah. >> bill: we'll get right into the debate, but first... >> announcer: this is the full court press. >> on this wednesday other headlines making news, the nfl announced who will perform at

this season's sexy liberal tour half time show, a repeat performer, beyonce will headline the program in new orleans. she last sang the national anthem at the 2004 sexy liberal tour. last year, madonna was on fame where co performer m.i.a. flipped the finger. >> bill: beyonce? >> when i think football, i don't think madonna or fiancee. they had prince, who was great they had tom petty they had great performers, paul mccartney was really good. come on, this is not a beyonce type event. >> a piece of michael jordan history went for a pretty penny at auction this week. it's barbecue sauce. a 1992 jug of mick jordan sauce

sold on ebay for $10,000. the unopened one gallon bottle was the sauce used on the mcjordan burger, a promotion that mcdonald's did 20 years ago in honor of the basketball star. it was a quarter pound beef patty, mustard onion and the the barbecue so you say. >> i remember that from when i was a kid new where was it served? >> at mcdonald's. >> bill: really? >> mcjordan. when michael jordan was playing. i remember because it was the firstburg are i had, it was a circular disk that fit right on top of the burger. >> what are you going to do with this barbecue sauce. >> please don't eat it. >> no word on the shelf life. >> back over your driveway with it but don't eat it. >> the detroit tigers are one win away from the world series.

in game three last night the tigers beat the new york yankees 2-1 thanks to justin verlander. he gave up his first run in the ninth inning. they took him out. tigers were last in the series in 2006. nlc this afternoon. they are tied at one game apiece. >> bill: do you know what romney said about that? >> what? >> bill: let detroit go bankrupt. 12 minutes after the hour, what a contrast, what a difference. president obama, you know, may have sat out the first debate, but boy not last night. he came. he was engaged. he was ready to play. he was determined to not let mitt romney get away with any lies, took him on to challenge any statement and he did. he was determined to get his message across and he did. i thought he looked presidential, he looked cool, he looked in command and mitt

romney looked flustered at times the deer in the headlight particularly talking about libya and got caught not knowing what he was talking about about libya. too often, mitt romney was just throwing stuff out there almost like every factoid hoping that something would stick. he was all over the map. there were several i thought very, very memorable exchanges. mitt romney always talks about he's got a five-point plan, but if you listen to the five-point plan, it doesn't make any sense but president obama challenged the five-point plan, making fun of it. >> governor romney says he has got to five-point plan. he has a one point plan, and that plan is to make sure that folks at the top play by a different set of rules. >> bill: yep and screw the

middle class basically. help the wealthy screw the middle class. >> on twitter am i the only person who saw the influence in joe biden last night? that was a joe biden type answer. >> bill: it was. i do give joe biden a lot of credit. the president watched that debate and he saw how you can be -- you just don't let the stuff slide. you've got to come back. the president several times said that's not true. nothing you said was true. this is almost a direct quote from something joe biden said. >> he didn't say malarkey. >> bill: no, he didn't. president obama also made fun of, he used humor, you know, and sarcasm very effectively i thought, when he talked about you mitt romney's tax plan. $5 trillion in cuts, tax cuts,

$2 trillion in additional spending to the pentagon, which the pentagon said it doesn't need or want, and then a trillion dollars to continue the bush tax cuts, which adds up to $8 trillion and the president pointed out and yet mitt romney says that's not going to impact the budget or deficit at all because he's going to make it up with some deductions which he won't name. president obama says deductions? >> if somebody came to you governor with a plan that said here, i want to spend seven or $8 trillion, and we're going to pay for it, but we can't tell you until maybe after the election how we're going to do it you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal. and neither should you, the american people. >> i love that. >> because the math doesn't add up. >> you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal! >> fuzzy math! >> bill: that's a great phrase. great phrase there.

and i thought the strongest moment for the president was right about in the middle of the debate where a gentleman said listen mr. president, this is the kind of question you always hate right and i read before the debate that the obama campaign was fearing this question. the man said i voted for you the last time, he was an african-american gentleman, i voted for you the last time, but what have you done for me? president obama, he was ready. >> well, we've gone through a tough four years. there's no doubt about it, but four years ago i told the american people, and i told you i would cut taxes for middle class families and i did. i told you i'd cut taxes for small businesses, and i have. i said that i'd end the war in iraq and i did. i said we would refocus attention on those that actually attacked us on 9/11. we have gone after al-qaeda's leadership like never before and

osama bin laden is dead. i said we would put in place health care reform to make sure insurance companies can't jerk you around and you would have a chance to get afford automobile insurance, so i have. >> he just went through boom, boom, boom. >> anything else for you? >> bill: i said i would do this and i did. i thought it was a very good statement on that. mitt romney's, you mention i had it, mitt romney's favorite -- well i wouldn't say my favorite moment for mitt romney was when he was asked about what he would do for women. of course, we know that he would cut funding for planned parenthood, he would let employers decide whether or not women get contraception coverage. he supported that blunt amendment, but mitt insists that he loves women. >> we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds that could be qualified to become members of

our cabinet. i went to a number of women's grooms and said can you help us find folks and they brought us whole binders full of women. >> bill: binders full of women. >> girls take us to the girls! >> bill: well, even that, it turns out, he was talking about when he was governor of massachusetts and they couldn't, and all the nominees they brought him were male candidates and he said go out and find him some women and they brought binders full of women. it's reported that that's a big lie, that what happened was the massachusetts had a history of men in executive positions. during the campaign for governor women's groups went out, they formed an organization called mass group to recruit women who would be available to serve in state government, and then once romney won the election, they came to him with all these resumes of women and

saying when you're making a decision, here are women you might consider. so he did not put the word out we have to go find someone. he did not send his people out to find women. they had come to him. one more big natalee. peter fenn joining us here. we'll take your call at 1-866-55-press when we come back with the full court press. >> announcer: your chance to debate the debate. this is the full court press live on your radio and current tv. just telling you what's going on in politics today. >>at the only on-line forum with a direct line to bill press. >>it's something i've been waiting for a long time. >>join the debate now. ♪ just put a little bit of yourself ♪ ♪ in everything you do ♪ [ female announcer ] add your own ingredients to hamburger

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1-866-55-press. this is the "bill press show," live on your radio and current tv. >> bill: hey, we got a 23 minutes after the hour. big difference between the second debate and the first one. president obama showed up, dominated, delivered the mail for sure. peter fenn joining us here. great to see you.% >> thanks, bill. >> peter is following twitter. >> someone writes in, we mentioned biden. saying remember when biden said that barack obama had a spine of steel no we saw that last night for sure. one other person that wrote in saying that he was impressed by how obama accepted final responsibility on libya after clinton had come out and said that it was her fault. >> bill: peter that was sort of

the key issue last night wasn't it? >> bill, i was amazed, because everybody thought that that would be the weakest point for obama. i thought it was one of the strongest if not the strongest. he looked presidential. he did the john kennedy thing after bay of pigs. he said look, i met them when they came back. these are my people. when he said that, his whole discussion of that libya thing i just thought it was unbelievably strong, forceful and presidential. >> bill: and the president said the idea that romney and others should accuse them of not doing the job or not caring about what happened, and that the fact that they were playing politics with it, here's what he said, he was so strong, and he was pissed. you can hear it. >> the suggestion that anybody in my team, whether secretary of

state, our u.n. ambassador, anybody on my team would play politics or mislead when we've loft four of our own governor, is offensive. that's not what we do. >> bill: that's not who i am. he added. >> yeah. for 10 minutes after that, romney was back on his feet. he didn't know how to respond. >> hamamamama. >> bill: particularly, because he romney was wrong when he said president obama it took him four days to call it an act of terror when the penalty said check the transcript. candy crowley said yes he did. she had the transcript. >> she knew that was going to come up. >> it's got to be hard to fact check in realtime. that was a quick correction on her part. >> she was great in that debate. romney did this repeatedly, started off with the energy, it was b.s.

he was dead wrong on that, and he's called on it now the next day about it. you know, he was dead wrong as he has been all along on his tax plan. i think what's beginning to happen is folks are looking at mitt romney and starting to think this guy's a phony. he will say anything that he needs to say. and he's being a bully. he thinks he can push it through just because he's being forceful about it. i think folks are getting his number. >> bill: igor volsky was in earlier. they called them myths not lies he told 27 lies in 38 minutes. this morning they haven't even counted, they're still counting.

there's going to be a record number of lice. another one, he said i think that all american women should have access to contraception but he supported the blunt amendment which said employers decide whether or not you get actions. so he's just... >> and these things, you know, you cannot say this and not expect to be called on it. he left so much on the table the first debate and more this time. the number of women actually went down under him and they're going up now after. he also appointed women to lower level cabinet posts and things that he didn't care about. women are getting it done. >> bill: and they should. and defunding planned parenthood where he says he cares about women. there are so many lies. he lied about assault weapons being illegal in this country when they're not. that ban expired in 2004.

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happen. peter fenn in studio with us. peter ogburn is checking your tweets. >> yes indeed, @bpshow. >> we asked mitt romney's lowest moment, one tweeted the moment he walked out. >> bill: there at the debate last night the leading ranking democratic on the house budget committee, good friend of the program, congressman chris van hollen from maryland. congressman, good morning. >> good morning great to be with you and the others, peter and peter. >> two peters. >> bill: before we get to last night's debate. we want to congratulate you on the outstanding job of filling in as paul ryan in the joe biden debate prep.

>> well, i finally deprogrammed myself bill. i was a little worried there but at one moment, the vice president said chris make sure you don't go over to the dark side. the vice president came out as we all know him a passionate fighter for the middle class and he did just a terrific job and of course, last night the president did a great job so, i think everybody is now on the rebound here. >> do you think that the president got a little inspiration from joe biden comparing the first presidential debate to last night's presidential debate? >> well, the president sure had a lot more fight in him last night. last night he didn't let mitt romney get away with the romney extreme makeover effort, which romney brought out in the first debate and tried last night. the difference was last night the president held mitt romney accountable for all the statements that romney made during the republican primary.

in the first debate, romney tried to again reinvent himself and i think the president was just, he was caught by surprise by the willingness of romney just to do his total makeover, but he didn't get away with it last night romney didn't. >> bill: romney would say anything. i mean, he treat it again. >> we were talking about that earlier, congressman, you know, he's getting called on these things now. romneying having trouble. he got called on energy, on detroit and bankruptcy. oh, you adopted my plan. excuse me? how did you think the president did there fighting back on that auto question? >> that's right romney, really, another outrageous effort to mislead people, because he claimed that essentially the president followed mitt romney's advice which is absurd, because what the president's plan provided for was some public moneys some taxpayer dollars to

help save the auto industry. that was the big problem. there were no private creditors willing to put money in, so mitt's plan would have driven them bankrupt. there's no doubt about it. what happened last night on that issue, on the immigration issue on tax policy issues the pot reminded people what mitt romney said. on tax issue, mitt romney said about a week ago that he thought it was perfectly fair and in fact good that he, mitt romney pays this lower effective tax rate than a lot of working people. the president also pointed out that in mitt romney's tax reform plan romney is willing to put all the deductions that help middle income taxpayers on the table. in other words the mortgage interest deduction the health exclusion. mitt romney says we'll look at all those. the one tax preference he will not look at, his capital gains and interest, the one that helps mitt romney.

>> bill: the one that helps him the most. >> you can't touch that one! everything else is on the table. i thought he exposed the president exposed the romney tax plan as the fraud that it is. >> bill: yeah, and he used a phrase that i think we're going to hear a lot of. we all have our kind of highlights. for me this was of the one where the president nailed romney by pointing out look, $5 trillion in tax cuts, $2 trillion in additional spending for the pentagon, another trillion for the bush tax cuts, that's $8 trillion and then you say you're going to make up with some unnamed deductions you're going to get rid of. here's how the president put it, turning this mitt romney's claim well i'm a businessman right around. >> obama: if somebody came to you governor with a plan that said here, i want to spend seven or $8 trillion and we're going to pay for it, but we can't tell

you until maybe after the election how we're going to do it, you wouldn't have taken such a sketchy deal and neither should you the american people, because the math doesn't add up. >> bill: yeah, sketchy deal, right congressman. >> that was one of the great moments of the debate. i think sketchy deal is the right way to brand the romney plan. you know, the other really good moment, there were many, but the other good moment was of course on libya, where i thought the president made mitt romney look very small pointing out that romney had jumped early on to try and politicize what had been a tragedy for america overseas. and the president just said now mitt romney, commanders in chief don't do that. we don't do that in america and that was a powerful moment and mitt romney never came back from that. >> bill: no, he really couldn't after even candy crowley had to

jump in and say no, mitt, you're wrong, the president did call it an act are terror the next day. this was an act of terror on american soil against americans where americans were killed, a time when congressman we all remember 9/11, right when that happened on our soil then, right, that other 9/11. everybody pulled together, right? we were attacked and we were going to get the guys that did it. this time, romney jumped right away to make it -- play politics with it. >> that's right. my dad was a career foreign service officer just like am bass door chris stevens and served our country overseas and i just found it incredibly offensive when mitt romney decided to exploit that issue for political purposes or attempt to. i think that's the way the country saw it. here's a guy with no foreign policy experience. his first overseas visit to london, he insults our closest

ally. the next glimpse we got of him was this effort to exploit a tragedy overseas, and then to claim like some of these, you know this right wing conspiracy theory that there's some kind of cover up and the president just looked at him and said look, i sent these people overseas. they are emissaries of the united states and the president of the united states, i will do everything i can to get the facts and track these guys down and bring them to justice. look i'm looking forward to the foreign policy debate now because romney, he cannot accept -- there's really no light between when he says he wants to do and what the president's doing unless, as joe biden pointed out last week, romney and ryan want to, you know, go to war in some of these places. >> right. >> if that's the case, they should just come clean and tell people. >> his poles is a neocon policy. he's going to take us back to the same policies of bush on

foreign policy, people don't want to go there. people are very, very nervous about it. >> if you look at his top advisors, and now dick cheney on the team, this is george bush, you know. >> redo. >> team, it's a redo, so people should be understandably nervous about that. >> bill: by the way that brings up another favorite moment of mine. i wanted to get your take on it. when mitt romney was given the opportunity to criticize george w. bush, he leapt at it. i'm not george bush, he was terrible on deficits. i thought the president brilliantly came back and said yeah he's different he's worse than bush. >> he's more to the right. >> that was great because i mean, the first thing that came out of mitt romney's mouth in answer to that question is hey

i'm different from george bush because our oil drilling technology has improved. [ laughter ] >> which made it clear that he wasn't going to be able to distinguish himself from george bush on the economic plan, which was a disaster. the president said yeah, on economics, you are the same. on social policies, immigration planned parenthood issues, you're much worse way to the right of george bush. you're the mitt romney of the republican primary. >> bill: there were answers like that that left romney with nowhere to go and nothing to say. you get a lot of credit for being part of the team, congressman. we appreciate that. you know, you're part of our team too. >> it's great to be with you bill, and the guys. keep on trucking. >> bill: we'll see you back here in washington. that next debate, bob schieffer

is the moderator. they're not going to run over him. mitt romney may try he couldn't run over candy crowley last night. candy crowleys no jim lehrer. jim lehrer, he's a friend of mine. we'll be right back. >> announcer: on your radio on t.v., the "bill press show," new on current tv. [ ♪ theme ♪ ] (vo) during the debates, it's you've stood at the podium yourself. with governors granholm, spitzer, and vice president gore, watch the only truly experienced presidential debate coverage.

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if you're not happy call them within another 60 days, cancel, they'll send you a full refund. 356-5967. >> bill: peter, next debate on foreign policy, peter fenn, peter ogburn. should be interesting. >> should be. >> bill: do you think romney is going to bring his foreign policy expert paul ryan is to help him. >> he doesn't have too many experts except exbush neoconservatives liz cheney. >> what does she know about foreign policy? >> bill: has she ever been overseas? >> look, if he is relying on the cheneys for his foreign policy advice where even george bush

has begun out there we're all in deep trouble. what would he have done in libya? would he have sent troops? of course, no tubes on the ground. well that's what bush had said about iraq, too. this kind of foreign policy, bravado with no substance will kill him in the debate. the one thing we saw from obama was real presidential leadership when it came to talking about benghazi and what happened and taking responsibility. >> bill: one thing we learned about mitt romney is he's very much pro women. i mean, he as governor of massachusetts be he showed that when they didn't come up with candidates women candidates for the top jobs in his administration, he said this is not good enough. we've got to do better and lo and behold, look what happened. maybe the low point for mitt

romney. >> romney: we took a concerted effort to go out and find women who had backgrounds to become members of our cabinets. i went to a number of women's groups and said can you find us some and they brought us whole binders full of women. >> all these binders full of women lying around. binders! we've got binders full of women. >> he obviously had the thinnest binder to start with. that just range so hollow and the fact that, you know, again the facts come back to haunt mitt romney. >> bill: the fact that as we pointed out that there was a group called mass gap formed by women's organizations while the election was underway, they weren't sure who was going to be nominated, but knew women had been underrepresented in executive positions in state government so wanted to be ready for whoever was the new governor. when romney was elected they came to him with resumes. he makes it sound like he asked

for it. >> he did not ask for it. they had this in place long before. plus this is the guy who sat down with pro choice leaders and said he's going to be with them at the beginning of this administration, and then suddenly, he pulled the rug right out from underneath them. you cannot trust mitt romney. >> bill: on these issues. this is a guy who said he would defund planned parenthood and that employers not women themselves should decide whether they have actions to contraception. we have time for a quick call. matthew from indiana. >> caller: how are you? >> bill: all right what did you think last night? >> caller: i think what clinched it for me last night was president obama, he was very presidential, and what really clinched me was the 47% when president obama he pointed out and he showed mitt romney's true colors, that mitt romney was talking and didn't know he was

being videotaped. that clinched it for me, just like alexander butterfield said to nixon how he pointed out nixon had a secret taping system in the white house. >> bill: thank you matthew. romney opened himself up to that when he said no, i care for 100% of americans. >> walked right into it. >> i couldn't believe it the president clearly was saving this and waiting for the right moment. he wasn't going to come right out of the box with it and putting i did into his closing argument as matthew said that was a lasting impression. who cares about the middle class? those numbers are even stronger for obama now after this had debate than they were before. >> bill: absolutely, and he, you know all of us were saying come on, 47% and boom! yeah, he delivered it. >> you were tweeting it, are we going to miss this opportunity?

no he didn't miss it. >> bill: we're back with joe biden and barack obama damn right we're back, thank you for coming in, my friend. peter ogburn, here you go. i'll be back with a quick parting shot. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." [ ♪ theme ♪ ]

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no doubt about it. the truth is president obama won hands down and mitt romney proved himself one of the biggest, rudest and whineyest jerks ever to run for president. america saw a clear contrast between two candidates. president obama was cool, tough passionate and compassionate spoke with power and conviction. romney on the other hand rambled on and on in response to almost every question throwing everything he could remember from his prep up against the wall hoping something would stick. not only that, he got a lot of stuff wrong saying assault weapons were illegal in this country. wrong. he said he never praised the arizona anti immigration law. wrong. he excused president obama of waiting 14 days before calling the attack in libya an act of terror. wrong. and like joe biden before, president obama called mitt romney out on every lie. yep, we progressives needed a lift last night and president obama delivered it. have a great day folks see you

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